A Stationless SkyTrain In Surrey

Charlie Smith of the Georgia Straight gets it, but that is no surprise, Charlie Smith and the Georgia Straight has always been the newspaper of note when it comes to SkyTrain?

Why, you say? Because he asks real questions.

By building SkyTrain, the new mayor of Surrey wants a funnel to take commuters out of Surrey, west and this can be accomplished with the few and extremely expensive stations (great to cut ribbon in front of), any thought that SkyTrain will improve local transit will be nothing more than dust in the wind.

The same holds true for the proposed SkyTrain subway under Broadway.

Building SkyTrain, like the Canada Line in Richmond, will do nothing to mitigate congestion, or for that matter, improve local transit. It will give Surrey Councillors, MLA’s and MP’s a chance to cut ribbons at election time.

It seems the big issue was speed of the transit system and SkyTrain apparent faster speeds come at a price, fewer stations.

But again, fearmongering and deception rules in Surrey as door to door commute times would be about the same for light rail and SkyTrain, with local trips, using light rail, being faster than SkyTrain, simply because light rail has more convenient and user friendly stations.

Memo to Surrey politicians: Future generations of transit customers and taxpayers will condemn your building with SkyTrain, but for now, building a monument to arrogance and stupidity, may get you elected and/or reelected for a few election cycles, before the the ill winds of reality strike.

How many SkyTrain stations will Surrey get in return for cancelling light rail? Not many at all

by Charlie Smith on November 24th

King George Station currently is the final stop on the eastbound Expo Line.


Surrey residents are eager to have a SkyTrain extension, judging by the October 20 election result.

The winning party, the Safe Surrey Coalition, pledged to dump a fully funded light rail line connecting Guildford and Newton to Surrey Centre.

Instead, the party’s mayoral candidate, Doug McCallum, promised use this money to develop SkyTrain along the Fraser Highway to Langley.

But do Surrey residents realize that this will mean far fewer rapid-transit stations?

There were 11 planned stops along the $1.65-billion Surrey-Newton-Guildford light rail line. Four were on 104th Avenue at 152nd Street, 148th Street, 144th Street, and 140th Street.

Seven more were planned along the King George Highway between 72nd Avenue and Surrey Central Station.

The next phase was going to be light rail from King George Station to Langley. The Hatch report, which was done for TransLink, noted that this $1.64-billion light-rail line would include nine stations.

That would have given Surrey 17 additional stations, not counting King George and Surrey Central, which already serve SkyTrain passengers.

The nine along Fraser Highway would be at King George, 140th Street, 152nd Street, 160th Street, 166th Street, 68th Avenue, 64th Avenue, 192nd Street, and Langley Exchange.

TransLink has estimated that it will cost $2.9 billion to develop SkyTrain from King George Station to Langley. That’s about $175 million per kilometre.

If only $1.65 billion is spent—the current funding envelope for the suspended Surrey-Newton-Guildford light rail—the SkyTrain line would only extend about nine kilometres down the Fraser Highway.

That wouldn’t even make it to 68th Avenue, which is 12.4 kilometres down the Fraser Highway.

That means, at most, there will likely two or three SkyTrain stations in addition to King George Station if the TransLink Mayors’ Council agrees to reallocate the funding from light rail to SkyTrain. That’s because SkyTrain stations tend to be placed at greater distances from one another, in comparison to stations on light-rail routes.

Of course, this estimate of two or three new SkyTrain stations is predicated on TransLink’s financial estimate being correct—something that McCallum has disagreed with.

So there you have it: nine new rapid-transit stops with LRT from Guildford to Newton via Surrey Centre (in addition to LRT stations at King George and Surrey Centre). And possibly only two or three new rapid transit stops with the same amount of funding going to SkyTrain down the Fraser Highway.

It raises serious questions whether a truncated SkyTrain line that stops before 88th Avenue would attract anywhere near as many riders as an 11-station LRT line that brings hordes of passengers to Surrey Centre.

The TransLink Mayors’ Council hasn’t made any decision to approve SkyTrain in Surrey rather than light rail.

The mayors have merely suspended the light rail line after more than $50 million was spent, pending further study.

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