Edmonton LRT – To Be or Not To Be, That is The $220 Million Question

The question Edmonton transit planners are being asked; “Does transit need to be user friendly or auto friendly ?” In Edmonton to be auto friendly means adding at least $220 million to the cost of the project.

What this article illustrates is the cost difference between LRT and a light-metro and I think that the planners are under valuing the cost of building an elevated light-metro.

A fully elevated LRT light-metro would cost at least double of that of an at-grade/on-street LRT. A fully elevated line would also ill serve low-floor cars and a one minute shorter journey time is hardly worth $220 million.

There are hidden costs with elevated construction, including extra maintenance costs toAi?? and fewer stations, thus making an elevated light-metro less user-friendly and user friendliness is the top reason why transit customers take transit.

Is $220 million for a minute faster trip a worth while expense?

For Edmonton, it is the $220 million question.


Edmonton is weaning itself from German style S-Bahn to classic Style of European LRT, complete with low-floor trams

Raised track would cut wait times at the Whyte Avenue intersection by 20 or 30 seconds

ByAi??Natasha Riebe, CBC News Posted: Apr 14, 2017

The Valley Line LRT could be elevated from the 83rd Street and 82nd Avenue intersection to 85th Street and 90th Avenue through the Bonnie Doon area.The Valley Line LRT could be elevated from the 83rd Street and 82nd Avenue intersection to 85th Street and 90th Avenue through the Bonnie Doon area. (City of Edmonton)

Plans for a neighbourhood-friendly commuter train running at street level through Bonnie Doon could be at risk if Edmonton city councillors entertain a new proposal to change the Valley Line LRT design.

A report released Thursday presents the option of elevating the track alongAi??83rdAi??Street, east of BonnieAi??DoonAi??mall,Ai??from north ofAi??90thAi??Avenue to south ofAi??WhyteAi??Ai??Avenue at a potential cost of $125 million toAi??$220Ai??million.

Neighbouring communities that would be affected the most by an elevated train include Idylwylde, Holyrood and Strathearn.

The current plan is to build a 27-kilometre low-floor tram-style train running at street level from Mill Woods in the southeast to Lewis Farms inAi??the west.

Dave SutherlandDave Sutherland with the Holyrood Community League, pictured on a train in London, England, says a metro-style LRT would be a visual and psychological barrier. (Supplied)

“One of the goals is to have it integrated with the neighbourhoods where you can just walk up to the station and catch the train,” Dave Sutherland, civics director with the Holyrood community league, said Friday.

“Elevating it changes that perception to a metro system where it’s fairly disconnected from the community,” Sutherland argues.

A raised track would look similar to Vancouver’s SkyTrain and create a visual and psychological barrier, Sutherland said.

“It wouldn’t feel like it’s a neighbourhood streetcar anymore, it would feel like you’re getting on to a major metro system.”

The raised track would speed up LRT trips by about one minute and shorten wait times for vehicles at intersections, according to the report.

“The wait times they’re looking at would only vary by 20 seconds or 30 seconds,” Coun. Ben Henderson said.

‘What they’re proposing right nowAi??seems like overkill to me.’ - Coun. Ben Henderson“For that we would be spending up to $220 million.”

Henderson recognizes the ongoing headache of heavy congestion at intersections such as Whyte AvenueAi??and 83rd Street.

“I don’t think we can make that go away by raising the LRT,” he suggested. “I think that’s in the nature of the amount of traffic that tries to goAi??through there at rush hour.”

A big reason to build the LRT, he pointed out, is to give people an easier way to get around the city and reduce the number of vehicles on Edmonton streets.

He suggested only a portion of the track should be raised around the heaviest intersection at Whyte Avenue, not for seven or eight blocks.

“What they’re proposing right now seems like overkill to me.”

Learn from past mistakes, avoid delays

It’s safe to say nobody wants delays and technical problems similar to those that beset the Metro Line, which opened two years after theAi??initial deadline.

Henderson said he wants the city to get the Valley LineAi??right.

“I suspect they’re being extra cautious after the Metro Line decision was made, which was made without good information,” Henderson said of the recent report.

Building the $1.8-billion southeast portion of the Valley Line between Mill Woods and downtown is expected to take another two years.

Adding an elevated track would drag out construction for at least another six months,Ai??Sutherland pointed out.

“Plus it would be much more intensive construction, with building piers and overhead stations and things like that,” he said.

The option to raise the track alongsideAi??Bonnie DoonAi??mall is not in the original budget for the project.

The company building the line, TransEd, said if the city decides to go ahead with the grade separation at Bonnie Doon, the company could finance it and increase monthly payments on the 30-year period.

City councillorsAi??are scheduled toAi??discuss the report at a committee meeting Tuesday.

Update, April 19.



One Response to “Edmonton LRT – To Be or Not To Be, That is The $220 Million Question”
  1. R says:

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