Road Pricing -To Hide Transit Blunders In The past And Blunders Yet To Come

The major rule about “Road Pricing” or congestion charges and that is, one must have an affordable and user friendly transit system in place before road pricing will be accepted by the populace, if not, it is not going to happen.

The Metro Vancouver region does not have, nor will have any time soon a transit system that would be acceptable for road pricing.

In 2015, 62% of the population voted against any further taxes going to TransLink, yet regional mayors remain blind to this.

The problem with TransLink is and always has been the SkyTrain light-metro system.

The region has paid up to four times more to build with SkyTrain and it costs about 40% more to operate than other transit alternatives such as light rail. Thus SkyTrain cost more to build, operate and maintain than LRT and this added cost, over time has nearly bankrupted the transit authority, as predicted almost forty years ago!

For this reason, Metro Vancouver’s light-metro system has hemorrhaged transit money away from other transit projects to shore up light-metro.

It is no coincidence that light rail (LRT) made light-metro, such as our SkyTrain, obsolete by the mid 1980’s.

But Metro Vancouver mayors, wearing rose coloured glasses are squandering more money on a next to useless $3 billion SkyTrain subway under Broadway and a massively expensive LRT, designed as a poor man’s SkyTrain in Surrey.

The myopic transit vision by regional mayors is extremely dangerous, as they have been conned big time, by the SkyTrain/light-metro lobby, which includes SNC Lavalin and Bombardier, who hold the patents for the ALRT/ART proprietary SkyTrain.

All this tax is designed to do is to hide transit planning blunders in the past and transit blunders yet to come.

As there is little or no alternative transit service for the vast majority of people in Metro Vancouver, all attempts for road pricing are doomed.

Independent commission to decide pricing models for transit and transportation in Metro Vancouver

by Hana Mae Nassar

Posted Jun 5, 2017 10:54 pm PDT

Pattullo Bridge (Courtesy
Panel to be made up of people with transit-related expertise and community stakeholders
Independent commission will be named on Tuesday
Expert believes removing the political component from making pricing-related decisions could be beneficial

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) ai??i?? More bridges with tolls and fees based on how far you drive are just a couple of options under a possible mobility pricing scenario for the region.

The Mayorsai??i?? Council has formed an independent panel to look into different options to help pay for transit and transportation improvements around Metro Vancouver.

The panel will be made up of people with transit-related expertise, community stakeholders, and basically non-partisan individuals according to Transit Blogger and Langley City Councillor Nathan Pachal.

ai???Considering the results of the referendum you really want to have an independent party thatai??i??s impartial to look at all the options on the table,ai??? says Pachal, who adds balance is important. ai???When youai??i??re talking about taxation ai??i?? because it is at the end of the day ai??i?? you really want to have something where thereai??i??s consensus and youai??i??re looking at it from all

Though road pricing and mobility pricing arenai??i??t controversial topics themselves, Pachal says previous proposals from the Mayorsai??i?? Council have been denied by the province.

With a new provincial government coming in, he believes removing the political component from making these kinds of decisions could be beneficial.

He says the Mayorsai??i?? Council has been shifting toward road pricing for a while. In theory, road pricing and mobility pricing are similar, but the transit blogger says the latter takes things one step further.
ai???It looks at how weai??i??re doing in all transportation, so the transit network as

TransLink is also working on its own pricing component that will complement what the panel decides.

The Mayorsai??i?? Council is expected to announce commission members tomorrow, as well as further details on the panelai??i??s functions.


One Response to “Road Pricing -To Hide Transit Blunders In The past And Blunders Yet To Come”
  1. eric chris says:

    I don’t see mobility pricing to fund TransLink going anywhere. Am I the only one who sees the inanity of funding public transit with mobility pricing which encourages TransLink to put more cars on the roads rather than pull cars from the roads? More cars on roads = more money for TransLink. TransLink just spent $900K to study “road pricing”.

    Now “road pricing” has been rebranded as “mobility pricing”, and TransLink is spending another $2.3 million to again study road pricing. If the money spent on the hundreds of studies (make that thousands of studies) since the formation of TransLink in 1999 would have been spent on LRT, we’d have had LRT out to UBC by now. This is no exaggeration.

    “Mobility pricing is a key pillar of the Mayors’ Council’s 10-year vision that could fix Metro Vancouver’s unfair user pricing regime, significantly reduce congestion and deliver fair and stable funding for our transit and transportation network,”

    In the extremely unlikely event that mobility pricing puts everyone on public transit, TransLink loses its source of funding. No chance of this happening as long as TransLink keeps spending money on skanky hub to hub b-lines and s-trains which point to point drivers find as appealing as the bubonic plague. At the end of the day, mobility pricing is another cash grab by TransLink. What’s the point of spending billions of dollars extra for hub to hub (s-train and b-line) public transit by TransLink?

    Hub to hub public transit by TransLink in Metro Vancouver causes more road congestion than it alleviates. This was evident during the last public transit strike while UBC was still in session and public transit use was the greatest.

    “Although there are likely more cars on the road because of the [TransLink public transit] strike, our members are reporting faster travel times and less-than-usual congestion during the past five weeks in the Lower Mainland, says Landry [BC truckers association]. Let’s face it. When there are hundreds of [soot blowing diesel] buses stopping and starting every few hundred yards, there’s going to be an impact on traffic. When those [carbon emitting and mostly empty diesel] buses aren’t there, space is freed up and the rest of the traffic doesn’t need to drive around them.”

    TransLink’s stupendous annual operating budget ($2 billion) for public transit rivals or surpasses Metro Toronto’s operating budget for public transit moving twice as many people as public transit by TransLink in Metro Vancouver. TransLink has a spending problem. TransLink does not have a funding problem.

    Anyhowzzz, Trump is being asked to kill the money sucking copycat s-train debacle in Honolulu. I did predict this would happen in past posts.

    “”Honolulu’s rail project does not deserve a single dollar more from the federal government,” the ad states. “It has become a poster boy for how politics incompetence, disinformation and outright lies are at the root of wasteful rail projects which do little for the public except raise taxes.”

    “Board members debated asking the Honolulu City Council for permission to issue up to $350 million in bonds … But some board members said they should consider issuing up to $2 billion in bonds instead.”

    Copy TransLink. Go broke.

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