Limiting in Honolula

The Honolulu High-Capacity Transit Corridor Project (HHCTCP) is the official name for the plan to construct an elevated rapid transit line serving the City and County of Honolulu on the island of Oahu.

http://www.honolulutransit.org/

The line will use 128Ai??ft (39Ai??m) trains carrying about 390 passengers each, similar in weight to light rail systems elsewhere in the United States (such as the MAX in Portland, Oregon, as opposed to heavier, and thus more expensive, lines found on rapid transit systems like the subways and elevated systems of Chicago and New York City.[9] Physically, the Honolulu system will have a good deal in common with light rapid transit systems such as SkyTrain in Vancouver, British Columbia or the Copenhagen Metro.

Rolling stock for the line will initially include 80 cars in 40 two-car consists, built by a joint venture between AnsaldoBreda and Ansaldo STS named Ansaldo Honolulu. (AnsaldoBreda and Ansaldo STS previously collaborated on the construction and operation of vehicles for the Copenhagen Metro.)

It is a proprietary package that has been purchased from AnsalsoBreda including cars, electrification, automatic train control, as in KA?benhavn.Ai??You will not be able just to buy someone elses metro cars and put them on the Honolulu system,Ai?? just likeAi??Ai??Vancouver’s Ai??Canada Line.

We wait for the protests from the Skytrain juveniles, Rico, De La Cruz & Richard on the comparison with Skytrain

Comments

One Response to “Limiting in Honolula”
  1. eric chris says:

    Comment left to HART building the Vancouver copy cat skytrain in Honolulu, so far no reply:

    http://www.honolulutransit.org/hart/executive-director-ceo.aspx

    You will be adding buses. While the elevated trains are fast, the buses which operate on the roads to get the people to the trains are slow. As a result, you will be forced to reduce travel times on the buses with frequent bus service in a futile attempt to synchronize the buses to the trains but you will be limited by the speed of the buses on the roads.

    Bus utilization will drop and operating costs will soar – as in Vancouver, Canada. Freeing up road space with transit has the same effect as building roads – attracting drivers – to effectively negate any reduction of vehicles on the roads from drivers taking transit. This paradox has foiled attempts by TransLink in Vancouver to reduce road congestion with spending on sky train lines and frequent transit:

    http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/public/workingPapers/tecipa-370.pdf
    http://daily.sightline.org/2011/12/14/study-more-roads-more-traffic/
    Since the formation of TransLink in 1999, driving has not decreased and trips by drivers remained unchanged at 57% in 2011 (TransLink):
    http://habilisblog.com/cycling-and-transit-use-see-big-gains-in-metro-vancouver/

    Trams at grade are more cost effective than elevated trains. Go with trams.

    Eric Chris, PE