Zwei replies: This weekend we had numerous traffic deaths and a transit police shooting, which resulted in a fatality. A TTC tram/bus collision is small potatoes indeed. Look, tram accidents happen, of which over 99% are cause by car/bus/truck drives disobeying signage or signals. In Europe, if a motorist collides with a tram he/she can expect to see a ban from driving and a sizable fine if they have been found responsible. If you really want a clearer picture, compare the number of tram/auto accidents in Toronto with the number of auto/auto accidents.
This is really a ‘man-of-straw’ argument as the death rate on SkyTrain is very high when compared to tram or streetcars. Of course collisions provide a graphic picture, but the media never show a dismembered body after being hit with SkyTrain.
It turns out from the investigation the bus driver was at fault because he was taking up 2 lanes and had miss-aligned his bus in the intersection. He clipped the front area of the streetcar as he passed through the intersection.
Zwei has a point remember, the TTC has 530,000,000 actual trips a year not boardings as Translink counts them. To use the Boardings term as Translink uses it, the TTC has more than 900,000,000 Boardings a year. With a surface fleet of over 2200 vehicles (buses and streetcars) plus the Subway and RT system. The fact that the TTC has as few accidents as it has, is a minor miracle! This does not count the other transit services which enter Toronto with their buses or GO Transit’s fleet of 350 commuter buses.
Just the City of Toronto (population 2.7 million) has over 1.5 million cars (not counting commercial vehicles) as well as approximately 2 million plus single occupant car commuters enter the city from the outside area every business day. It has roughly an average of 20 traffic accidents, that are considered moderately serious or more a day, according to Toronto Traffic Control. Also according to Toronto Traffic Control, most of these accidents occur at or near the 1632 major intersections. I do not have the provincial highway data.
From the looks of it, the soot blowing diesel bus violating the Motor Vehicle Act (99 B-Lines take up at least 110% of the road width) hit the car but it is hard to say whether the express 99 B-Line diesel bus with trolleybus lines overhead and having no good reason to be on the trolleybus route along Broadway was running the red light as it often does.
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Check this out. I don’t think you’d like it!
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ttc-streetcar-bus-head-collision-161634434.html
Zwei replies: This weekend we had numerous traffic deaths and a transit police shooting, which resulted in a fatality. A TTC tram/bus collision is small potatoes indeed. Look, tram accidents happen, of which over 99% are cause by car/bus/truck drives disobeying signage or signals. In Europe, if a motorist collides with a tram he/she can expect to see a ban from driving and a sizable fine if they have been found responsible. If you really want a clearer picture, compare the number of tram/auto accidents in Toronto with the number of auto/auto accidents.
This is really a ‘man-of-straw’ argument as the death rate on SkyTrain is very high when compared to tram or streetcars. Of course collisions provide a graphic picture, but the media never show a dismembered body after being hit with SkyTrain.
It turns out from the investigation the bus driver was at fault because he was taking up 2 lanes and had miss-aligned his bus in the intersection. He clipped the front area of the streetcar as he passed through the intersection.
Zwei has a point remember, the TTC has 530,000,000 actual trips a year not boardings as Translink counts them. To use the Boardings term as Translink uses it, the TTC has more than 900,000,000 Boardings a year. With a surface fleet of over 2200 vehicles (buses and streetcars) plus the Subway and RT system. The fact that the TTC has as few accidents as it has, is a minor miracle! This does not count the other transit services which enter Toronto with their buses or GO Transit’s fleet of 350 commuter buses.
Just the City of Toronto (population 2.7 million) has over 1.5 million cars (not counting commercial vehicles) as well as approximately 2 million plus single occupant car commuters enter the city from the outside area every business day. It has roughly an average of 20 traffic accidents, that are considered moderately serious or more a day, according to Toronto Traffic Control. Also according to Toronto Traffic Control, most of these accidents occur at or near the 1632 major intersections. I do not have the provincial highway data.
While we’re on the subject of transit mishaps:
http://www.straight.com/blogra/799146/99-b-line-bus-crashes-car-vancouver-photos
From the looks of it, the soot blowing diesel bus violating the Motor Vehicle Act (99 B-Lines take up at least 110% of the road width) hit the car but it is hard to say whether the express 99 B-Line diesel bus with trolleybus lines overhead and having no good reason to be on the trolleybus route along Broadway was running the red light as it often does.