Broadway rapid transit- Is the SkyTrain subway option a done deal?

 It seems Surrey mayor, Dianne Watts, have a look over her shoulder and see what her counterparts are up to in Vancouver, before she supports a gas tax increase.

It seems a Broadway SkyTrain subway is a done deal and this gas tax money she wants to fund light rail in surrey, will probably not go to fund the stale-dated (N)Evergreen line, but another SkyTrain subway in Vancouver. Any agreement on transit funding must be regarded as a mere scrap of paper that will soon be discarded at the first politically opportune time.

I think it is time for Mayor Watts and the rest of the South Fraser mayors lobby strong and hard for the BC government to cut TransLink in two; those who have SkyTrain and want to continue building with SkyTrain and those who want to build with cheaper transit options.

The refusal of Vancouver politicians to consider modern LRT for Broadway, just confirm that South Fraser taxpayers are regarded as peasants and vassals, country bumpkins, who are nothing more than tax 'milch-cows' to fund Vancouver's ambitious and extremely expensive SkyTrain subway building program.


Vancouver mayoral candidates Push for Broadway tunnel

but business owners, pointing to Cambie Corridor Canada Line experience, fear business loss if subway option is approved.

By Glen Korstrom – Business in Vancouver

Vancouver’s mayoral candidates are pushing for a SkyTrain tunnel link under the Broadway corridor to be the region’s top transit priority once Evergreen Line financing is confirmed.

The proposed link would connect with the Millennium Line and go as far west as Arbutus – a route that will inevitably cause friction given that many Broadway business owners fear any type of tunnel construction along their corridor will kill their enterprise.

TransLink spokesman Ken Hardie told Business in Vancouver that TransLink’s board has yet to determine the top regional priority after the Evergreen Line.

“Everything from Surrey rapid transit to Broadway rapid transit to gondolas going up Burnaby Mountain all fall into the queue,” he said.

Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson and his Non-Partisan challenger Susan Anton agree that reducing congestion on the Broadway corridor is vital for the region.

“It’s crucial that we have the Sky-Train technology through the Broadway corridor,” Robertson told BIV in an exclusive interview June 29.

“The growth and population and the traffic challenges in the Broadway corridor are unsustainable, so we’ve got to see the Broadway corridor served by the big pipe.”

 Anton described the proposed link as a “regional line with regional importance.”

 The Broadway corridor is the second busiest employment centre outside the downtown core, and TransLink estimates that there are 110,000 trips along the Broadway corridor each day.

 “In central Broadway, the only way you can manage the number of trips is with SkyTrain technology,” Anton said.

 Anton's and Robertson’s mutual belief that SkyTrain is the only viable technology in the Broadway corridor worries business owners and frustrates light-rail advocates. Ray's Beauty school for Hairdressing owner Gina Ray told BIV that she will close her 12-year-old business if regional politicians approve any form of tunnel along Broadway.

 She likes the idea of a burrowed tunnel but fears that construction will cause more disruption than authorities say.

 “I don’t trust them,” she said. “On Cambie Street there were so many businesses that went bankrupt or had to close. They did not expect to have the cut-and-cover [construction method].”

 Indeed,  Hazel & Co owner Susan Heyes suffered a drastic drop in customers for her maternity wear store when the Canada Line construction consortium dug a tunnel outside her store.

 She lost a  B.C. Court of Appeal judgment after she sued to recover $600,000 in damages from the consortium for business losses. Her only hope now is for the  Supreme Court of Canada

 to agree to hear the case.

The West Broadway Business Improvement Association  (WBBIA) officially opposes a tunnel. Its directors have examined TransLink’s seven options for improved transit in the Broadway corridor and decided that at-grade transportation, whether it involves more buses or a light-rail system, is preferable.

“We don’t want a SkyTrain tunnel. Whether it is cut and cover or a bored tunnel doesn't’t matter to us, because bored tunnels take longer and construction would cut off all the east-west traffic on West Broadway for a number of years,” said WBBIA director Donna Dobo, who owns the West Broadway costume store Just Imagine.

Light-rail advocate Malcolm Johnston has been lobbying to build light rail on Broadway for decades. Light rail would not require construction of a tunnel. It would instead run at grade along the existing corridor.

Now part of Rail For The Valley, Johnston spends much of his time lobbying to have light rail in the Fraser Valley. But he still thinks light rail on Broadway is the more practical and a better value than building a subway.

“TransLink’s planning is arcane,” Johnston said. “It’s dated, and they misinform the public. What else can I say? I would’t trust them to build an outhouse.”

 Johnston, who is familiar with TransLink’s seven proposals, believes the transportation authority has skewed its figures to make rapid transit appear to be a more viable option than either light rail or buses.

 He believes TransLink pulls numbers out of the air, such as its assertion that 110,000 bus trips are made daily in the corridor.

 Despite BIV’s repeated requests for details about that figure and estimates, TransLink was unable to provide that data.

 “TransLink says SkyTrain attracts more ridership than light rail. This is absolutely unproven,” Johnston said.

 “Sit down for this. Light rail has a bigger capacity than SkyTrain. This is contrary to the spin that TransLink has. De facto, a streetcar or even light rail has proven to have higher capacity than a subway unless you build a London-style metro [with multiple lines and longer trains].”

gkorstrom@biv.com

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3 Responses to “Broadway rapid transit- Is the SkyTrain subway option a done deal?”
  1. Evil Eye says:

    It seems the oily ooze of SkyTrain and its equally nasty companion, sleaze has infected Vancouver council, I wonder how many other politicians have been infected with Translink’s vile dealings?

  2. DanR. says:

    I think most provincially (Liberals anyway) have been infected with the ‘SkyTrain only’ oily ooze..

    It is just so very bizarre ‘regular’ or ‘normal’ LRT or other alternatives to skytrain will not be considered. It is a shame as the Lower Mainland is about 40 years behind on what we should have. We should of had Light Rail out to Maple Ridge by now and down King George to Newton and beyond to White Rock, plus Abbottsford in addition to the old ‘Inter urban’ out to Chilliwack..

    Surrey is the 12 Largest city in Canada and will no doubt have the most population in BC in a few years surpassing Vancouver population wise and we have just 4 stops yet New West, Burnaby, Vancouver……….

    I just do not get why everything has to be a system (SkyTrain) that is hardly used at all….

    Backin the day I used to catch the old 330 Ferguson bus down 108th and it went over the Port Mann into Vancouver an dit was great, just one bus to take to get off at Victoria/Hastings for work…then skytrain opened and it was re routed to New West SkyTrain (as that is as far as it went then) so then instead of one bus with no transfers I had to get off in New West and catch SkyTrain to Broadway then another bus to Hastings. This took longer and more incontinent so I went back to my car..

    SkyTrain rider ship numbers are fake. They force people to use it by re routing buses. Many of those bus routes had nothing wrong with them, they were direct and effecient like the ole 330 Ferguson or the 311 which used to go right downtown from Scottsdale yet we are now re routed to Bridgeport which forces us to use Canada line and this takes longer, (not to mention a transfer again when there never used to be one) I am ready to go back to the car again to be quite honest until Translink gets its head out of the sand..(I won’t hold my breathe) These direct buses were good as no transfers and good for commuters but Translink figures otherwise…

    I do not want to really say ‘backroom bribes’ but I really wonder if something is not ‘up’ so to speak?? It is just so crazy Translink etc seems to be on the SkyTrain kool Aid as are so much of the media (which is no surprise since almost all of it is pro Liberal)

    I lived in Calgary briefly and Edmonton even briefer inthe mid 80’s and really nothing wrong at all with their LRT at that time, I am sure they expanded by now. I even rode the line in Portland Ore back in 1994 and thought it was great and wonder like why the heck we do not have the same here? Nothing wrong with street level lrt in areas.

    I also think the Broadway line was a done deal long ago and it will be next. South of the Fraser will get nothing for years. I would expect Translink to really raise gas taxes and property taxes to cover this. It never ends with them. Even with Mayor Watts saying she is open to LRT the ‘powers that be’ will see it is ‘skytrain’ 30 years from now….

    I also think Translink should be elected directly and then hopefully we get people with a vision and people that actually use the transit system on it.

  3. zweisystem says:

    I do think that Vancouver council, TransLink and the province are trying to pull the wool over Dianne Watts’s eyes on this file. She had better wake up and smell the coffee on this issue or she may join the ranks of other politico’s who failed to understand that the peasants are tax maxed out!

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